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authorblasty <blasty@local>2026-07-26 14:51:07 +0200
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arm: switch ARM/Thumb decoding with `t`
`c` could not carve Thumb code. Thumb isn't a property of the bytes — it's a mode the CPU is in — so a raw image gives IDA nothing to detect: at a Thumb entry point it decodes 16-bit instructions as 32-bit ARM and produces confident nonsense. experiments/fibonacci.bin starts with `08 b5` = push {r3,lr}, which IDA reads as SVCLT 0xBF00. `t` on the listing switches the mode at the cursor and disassembles in it: Thumb @ 0x0 (segment set to 32-bit; Thumb needs ARM32) — 10 instructions 0x0 PUSH {R3,LR} 0x2 MOVS R1, #0 0x4 MOV R4, R0 0x6 BL unk_E3C Setting the T segment register is only half of it. Thumb does not exist in AArch64, and a headerless blob loaded with -parm comes up 64-bit, so T alone changes nothing and looks broken — I watched exactly that happen while probing the API. Asking for Thumb IS asking for ARM32, so set_thumb forces the segment to 32-bit and says so rather than doing it silently. It also has to del_items over the range first: the bytes are currently decoded in the old mode, and leaving that item defined pins the wrong instruction length so the new mode has nothing to apply to. Implemented as a `thumb` kind in the existing edit-item flow, so it inherits the shared reload — same cache bump, same ViewAnchor restore, same status flash. It switches AND disassembles, because flipping T and leaving the bytes undefined shows you nothing and reading the code was the point. tests: new tests/test_thumb_ui.py (8) driving the real Thumb binary — `c` alone does NOT produce the prologue, `t` does, the instructions are 16-bit wide (in ARM mode those three rows would be one 4-byte instruction), the run continues, the status explains the 32-bit forcing, and `t` toggles back. Deletes the .i64 first, because T and the segment's addressing mode are saved in it and a stale database would answer the question for us. 209/0 scenarios, 26/0 blob, 8/0 thumb.
-rw-r--r--README.md4
-rw-r--r--docs/PROJECTS.md20
-rw-r--r--idatui/app.py23
-rw-r--r--idatui/domain.py8
-rw-r--r--server/patch_server.py57
-rw-r--r--tests/test_thumb_ui.py126
6 files changed, 237 insertions, 1 deletions
diff --git a/README.md b/README.md
index 8fc59fd..6ccd65a 100644
--- a/README.md
+++ b/README.md
@@ -98,6 +98,10 @@ nothing:
./ida-tui fw.bin --processor arm --base 0x8000000
```
+ARM images that use Thumb need one more thing: press `t` on the listing to switch
+ARM/Thumb decoding at the cursor (it sets IDA's `T` register, and the segment to
+32-bit, since Thumb doesn't exist in AArch64).
+
`--base` is a real address (IDA's own `-b` is in paragraphs; the conversion is
done for you). In a project the options are recorded per binary, which is what a
multi-image firmware wants. They apply to the first open only — after that the
diff --git a/docs/PROJECTS.md b/docs/PROJECTS.md
index 10274ab..38d3262 100644
--- a/docs/PROJECTS.md
+++ b/docs/PROJECTS.md
@@ -297,6 +297,26 @@ conversion happens in `BinaryRef.load_args`, and a base that isn't 16-byte
aligned is rejected rather than silently landing somewhere else. `ida_args`
passes anything else through untouched.
+### ARM/Thumb
+
+Thumb is not a property of the bytes — it's a mode the CPU is in — so a raw image
+gives IDA nothing to detect. At a Thumb entry point it decodes 16-bit
+instructions as 32-bit ARM and produces confident nonsense: `push {r3,lr}`
+(`08 b5`) reads as `SVCLT 0xBF00`, and `c` either refuses or carves garbage.
+
+`t` on the listing switches the mode at the cursor and disassembles in it:
+
+ Thumb @ 0x0 (segment set to 32-bit; Thumb needs ARM32) — 10 instructions
+
+It sets IDA's `T` segment register, and forces the segment to 32-bit when
+turning Thumb on. That second part isn't optional: Thumb doesn't exist in
+AArch64, and a headerless blob loaded with `-parm` comes up 64-bit, so setting
+`T` alone changes nothing and looks broken. Asking for Thumb *is* asking for
+ARM32.
+
+`t` again toggles back — the mode is a guess, and guesses get revised. Both
+states are saved in the `.i64`.
+
### When analysis finds nothing
Zero functions is what a raw image described wrongly looks like — right file,
diff --git a/idatui/app.py b/idatui/app.py
index 2190643..ff67eef 100644
--- a/idatui/app.py
+++ b/idatui/app.py
@@ -738,6 +738,7 @@ class ListingView(SearchMixin, NavMixin, ColumnCursor, ScrollView, can_focus=Tru
Binding("a", "make_string", "Str", show=False),
Binding("p", "define_func", "Func", show=False),
Binding("u", "undefine", "Undef", show=False),
+ Binding("t", "toggle_thumb", "ARM/Thumb", show=False),
*SearchMixin.SEARCH_BINDINGS,
*NavMixin.NAV_BINDINGS,
*ColumnCursor.COL_BINDINGS,
@@ -1126,6 +1127,9 @@ class ListingView(SearchMixin, NavMixin, ColumnCursor, ScrollView, can_focus=Tru
def action_undefine(self) -> None:
self.post_message(EditItemRequested(self, "undef"))
+ def action_toggle_thumb(self) -> None:
+ self.post_message(EditItemRequested(self, "thumb"))
+
def action_make_data(self) -> None:
self.post_message(MakeDataRequested(self))
@@ -5150,7 +5154,8 @@ class IdaTui(App):
anchor: ViewAnchor | None = None) -> None: # worker context
assert self.program is not None
verb = {"code": "defined code", "func": "created function",
- "undef": "undefined", "string": "made string"}[kind]
+ "undef": "undefined", "string": "made string",
+ "thumb": "switched decoding"}[kind]
try:
if kind == "code":
# Keep going until something stops it: one instruction is rarely
@@ -5175,6 +5180,22 @@ class IdaTui(App):
"limit": "instruction limit"}.get(why, why)
verb = (f"defined {n} instruction{'s' if n != 1 else ''} "
f"({ea:#x}\u2013{end:#x}) \u2014 {reason}")
+ elif kind == "thumb":
+ # Switch the mode, then disassemble in it: flipping T and
+ # leaving the bytes undefined shows nothing, and the reason you
+ # flipped it was to read the code.
+ r = self.program.set_thumb(ea)
+ run = self.program.define_code_run(ea)
+ n = int(run.get("count", 0))
+ mode = "Thumb" if r.get("thumb") else "ARM"
+ verb = f"{mode} @ {ea:#x}"
+ if r.get("forced_32bit"):
+ verb += " (segment set to 32-bit; Thumb needs ARM32)"
+ verb += (f" \u2014 {n} instruction{'s' if n != 1 else ''}"
+ if n else " \u2014 still doesn't decode")
+ # falls through to the shared reload: same cache bump, same
+ # anchor restore, same flash. That is the whole point of having
+ # one path.
elif kind == "func":
self.program.define_func(ea)
elif kind == "string":
diff --git a/idatui/domain.py b/idatui/domain.py
index 606cf42..8787431 100644
--- a/idatui/domain.py
+++ b/idatui/domain.py
@@ -1373,6 +1373,14 @@ class Program:
if res.get("error"):
raise IDAToolError("define_code", f"@ {ea:#x}: {res['error']}")
+ def set_thumb(self, ea: int, mode: str = "toggle") -> dict:
+ """Switch ARM/Thumb decoding at ``ea``. Returns the resulting state."""
+ r = self.client.call("set_thumb", addr=hex(ea), mode=mode)
+ if not isinstance(r, dict) or r.get("error"):
+ raise IDAToolError("set_thumb",
+ f"@ {ea:#x}: {(r or {}).get('error', 'failed')}")
+ return r
+
def define_code_run(self, ea: int, limit: int = 20000) -> dict:
"""Disassemble consecutively from ``ea`` until something stops it.
diff --git a/server/patch_server.py b/server/patch_server.py
index 6601a0f..e40310a 100644
--- a/server/patch_server.py
+++ b/server/patch_server.py
@@ -967,6 +967,63 @@ def define_code_run(
return {"start": hex(start), "end": hex(ea), "count": count,
"stopped": stopped}
+
+@tool
+@idasync
+def set_thumb(
+ addr: Annotated[str, "Address to change the ARM decoding mode at"],
+ mode: Annotated[str, "'toggle', 'on' (Thumb) or 'off' (ARM)"] = "toggle",
+ end: Annotated[str, "Optional exclusive end address (default: this item)"] = "",
+) -> dict:
+ """Switch ARM/Thumb decoding at ``addr`` (IDA's T segment register).
+
+ Thumb is not a property of the bytes, it's a mode the CPU is in, so a raw
+ image gives IDA no way to know: at a Thumb entry point it decodes 16-bit
+ instructions as 32-bit ARM and produces confident nonsense
+ (``push {r3,lr}`` reads as ``SVCLT 0xBF00``).
+
+ Also forces the segment to 32-bit when turning Thumb ON. Thumb does not
+ exist in AArch64, and a headerless blob loaded with -parm defaults to
+ 64-bit — so setting T alone changes nothing and looks broken. Asking for
+ Thumb IS asking for ARM32."""
+ import ida_bytes
+ import ida_idp
+ import ida_segment
+ import ida_segregs
+
+ try:
+ ea = parse_address(addr)
+ except Exception as e:
+ return {"addr": str(addr), "error": str(e)}
+ treg = ida_idp.str2reg("T")
+ if treg is None or treg < 0:
+ return {"addr": hex(ea), "error": "no T register (not an ARM database)"}
+ seg = ida_segment.getseg(ea)
+ if not seg:
+ return {"addr": hex(ea), "error": "no segment"}
+
+ cur = ida_segregs.get_sreg(ea, treg)
+ cur = 0 if cur in (None, 0xFFFFFFFF, -1) else int(cur)
+ want = {"on": 1, "off": 0}.get(str(mode).lower(), 0 if cur else 1)
+
+ changed_bits = False
+ if want and seg.bitness != 1:
+ ida_segment.set_segm_addressing(seg, 1)
+ changed_bits = True
+
+ try:
+ stop = parse_address(end) if end else 0
+ except Exception:
+ stop = 0
+ size = max(int(stop) - ea, 0) or max(ida_bytes.get_item_size(ea), 2)
+ # The bytes are currently decoded in the OLD mode; leaving that item defined
+ # pins the wrong instruction length and the new mode has nothing to apply to.
+ ida_bytes.del_items(ea, 0, size)
+ ok = bool(ida_segregs.split_sreg_range(ea, treg, want, ida_segregs.SR_user))
+ now = ida_segregs.get_sreg(ea, treg)
+ return {"addr": hex(ea), "thumb": bool(now), "was": bool(cur), "ok": ok,
+ "bitness": ida_segment.getseg(ea).bitness,
+ "forced_32bit": changed_bits}
'''
SNIPPET = f"{BEGIN}\n{BODY.strip()}\n{END}\n"
diff --git a/tests/test_thumb_ui.py b/tests/test_thumb_ui.py
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..dce1635
--- /dev/null
+++ b/tests/test_thumb_ui.py
@@ -0,0 +1,126 @@
+#!/usr/bin/env python3
+"""ARM/Thumb decoding switch, against real Thumb code.
+
+Thumb isn't a property of the bytes — it's a mode the CPU is in — so a raw image
+gives IDA no way to know. At a Thumb entry point it decodes 16-bit instructions
+as 32-bit ARM and produces confident nonsense, and `c` either fails or carves
+garbage. `t` switches the mode.
+
+Uses experiments/fibonacci.bin (real Thumb), so the encodings are not a guess.
+Needs IDA. ~40s.
+"""
+import asyncio
+import os
+import sys
+
+sys.path.insert(0, os.path.dirname(os.path.dirname(os.path.abspath(__file__))))
+
+from textual.widgets import Static # noqa: E402
+
+from idatui.app import IdaTui, ListingView # noqa: E402
+
+PASS = FAIL = 0
+BIN = os.path.join(os.path.dirname(os.path.dirname(os.path.abspath(__file__))),
+ "experiments", "fibonacci.bin")
+
+
+def check(name, ok, detail=""):
+ global PASS, FAIL
+ if ok:
+ PASS += 1
+ print(f" ok {name}")
+ else:
+ FAIL += 1
+ print(f" FAIL {name} {detail}")
+
+
+async def wait(pred, pilot, t=240.0):
+ for _ in range(int(t / 0.05)):
+ await pilot.pause(0.05)
+ try:
+ if pred():
+ return True
+ except Exception: # noqa: BLE001
+ pass
+ return False
+
+
+async def run() -> int:
+ # A fresh database every time: the T flag and the segment's addressing mode
+ # are SAVED in the .i64, so a previous run would answer the question for us.
+ for ext in (".i64", ".id0", ".id1", ".id2", ".nam", ".til"):
+ try:
+ os.remove(BIN + ext)
+ except OSError:
+ pass
+
+ app = IdaTui(open_path=BIN, keepalive=False, load_args="-parm")
+ async with app.run_test(size=(140, 44)) as pilot:
+ await wait(lambda: app._func_index is not None
+ and app._func_index.complete, pilot)
+ await wait(lambda: app._cur is not None, pilot, 60)
+ lst = app.query_one(ListingView)
+ lst.focus()
+ lst.cursor = lst.model.index_of_ea(0)
+ lst._scroll_cursor_into_view()
+ await pilot.pause(0.3)
+ check("starts undefined at the entry", lst.model.get(lst.cursor).kind == "unknown",
+ f"{lst.model.get(lst.cursor).text!r}")
+
+ # `c` in the wrong mode: this is the failure being fixed. It must NOT
+ # quietly carve garbage — either it refuses, or whatever it makes is not
+ # the Thumb prologue.
+ m0 = lst.model
+ await pilot.press("c")
+ await pilot.pause(2.5)
+ h = lst.model.get(lst.model.index_of_ea(0))
+ check("`c` alone does not produce the Thumb prologue",
+ h is None or h.kind != "code" or "PUSH" not in h.text.upper(),
+ f"{h.text if h else None!r}")
+
+ m1 = lst.model
+ await pilot.press("t")
+ await wait(lambda: lst.model is not m1 and lst.model is not None, pilot, 60)
+ await pilot.pause(0.5)
+
+ status = str(app.query_one("#status", Static).render())
+ check("the status says it switched to Thumb", "Thumb" in status, status[:90])
+ # Thumb doesn't exist in AArch64, and -parm on a headerless blob gives a
+ # 64-bit segment, so setting T alone would change nothing and look broken.
+ check("and says it forced the segment to 32-bit",
+ "32-bit" in status, status[:90])
+
+ m = lst.model
+ rows = [m.get(m.index_of_ea(ea)) for ea in (0x0, 0x2, 0x4)]
+ check("the entry decodes as Thumb",
+ rows[0] is not None and rows[0].kind == "code"
+ and "PUSH" in rows[0].text.upper(),
+ f"{rows[0].text if rows[0] else None!r}")
+ # 16-bit instructions: the addresses are 2 apart, which is the whole
+ # point — in ARM mode these would be one 4-byte instruction.
+ check("instructions are 16-bit wide",
+ all(r is not None and r.kind == "code" and r.size == 2 for r in rows),
+ f"{[(hex(r.ea), r.size, r.text) for r in rows if r]}")
+ check("and it kept disassembling past the first one",
+ sum(1 for i in range(20) if (m.get(i) or h).kind == "code") > 5,
+ "expected a run of instructions, not one")
+
+ # Toggling back must be possible — the mode is a guess and guesses get
+ # revised.
+ m2 = lst.model
+ lst.cursor = lst.model.index_of_ea(0)
+ await pilot.press("t")
+ await wait(lambda: lst.model is not m2 and lst.model is not None, pilot, 60)
+ await pilot.pause(0.5)
+ status = str(app.query_one("#status", Static).render())
+ check("`t` toggles back to ARM", "ARM @" in status, status[:80])
+
+ print(f"\n{PASS} passed, {FAIL} failed")
+ return 1 if FAIL else 0
+
+
+if __name__ == "__main__":
+ if not os.path.isfile(BIN):
+ print(f"no such binary: {BIN}")
+ raise SystemExit(2)
+ raise SystemExit(asyncio.run(run()))